(The Pope in question seems to have been installed in early 2013. He would not be the antichrist of bibilical prophecy, but could be the false prophet that endorses the antichrist.)
… The Belgian Jesuit academic Rene Thibaut’s book, The Mysterious Prophecy of the Popes, (1951) has unlocked an entirely different means of investigating the prophecy of the pope’s fulfillment …
The simplest calculation which derives 2012 for the last pope is based on extrapolating the average papal reign, (which is) eleven years. … Although Thibaut wrote in 1951, we continued his thesis forward by adding the additional popes. The average eleven-year reign he predicted held true through John Paul II. … If Pope Benedict were to step down in April (of 2012), it would yield a near-perfect eleven. Thibaut did not use decimal numbers, so anytime during 2012 would verify he got it right. He simply predicted it would be in the year 2012. …
(However,) the average papal reign calculation is only the beginning. He derives the year 2012 from several other methods …
The Interview – Part 1
Notes (paraphrased, pretty much):
Putnam: A computer scientist. I’m a student of the bible and theology now. Once thought it was a crutch. Saved around the year 2000. Learned from Chuck Missler tapes at firefighters.org Now has a masters in theological studies.
In the Malachy prophecy of the popes, the next pope is the last. Had to get the book out before April or folks won’t believe that they wrote it (based on predictive evidence.)
Tom Horn: Rising of Petrus Romanus seemed associated with 2012. It is a dangerous subject to research and write about, but is my most urgent message ever. News with Views is a good news source, by Paul Walter:
A power struggle is boiling at the Vatican during 2012. Ancient catholic prophecy indicates the final pope, the false prophet, is here. The antichrist may emerge during the spring of 2012.
Malachi Martin, a high-level Jesuit, wrote Windswept House, called a novel, but Martin called it faction, i.e., truth in a fictional format. A simultaneous black ceremony at the Vatican and in S.C., USA in the 1960s was intended to enthrone Satan, presumably as pope. The Illuminati has taken over the Vatican.
Referencing Martin: The third Fatima secret is being covered up. It spoke of the final conclave in which Petrus Romanus would appear. Summing up 3d secret of Fatima, as per Chris Putnam, is skeptical that Mary gave the message. But the Catholic Church is covering it up. Why give any credence to this? As per Tom Horn, God has given prophetic messages through unsaved people before (e.g., Nebuchadnezer and Balaam). Whether it is true or not, the important thing is that the Vatican believes and is acting on it.
Quayle: The illuminists believe that Jesus is returning but that they can so own the souls of mankind and can develop some kind of hybridizing program that this will carry their cause over that of Jesus.
Putnam: The prophecy of the popes matches Rev 17, which says the city of 7 hills (Rome) will be destroyed. Malachy’s prophecy of the popes lists popes starting in 1139 A.D., and in its present form was published in 1595.
Horn: Why do so many pagan prophecies point to 2012? The Zohar prophecy in the Hebrew Kabbalah is 700 years old. The Zohar messiah arrives in late 2012 and the great tribulation begins. The 900 year old Malachy prophecy. The Mayan calendar ends in 2012 with return of their flying serpent god Kukulcan. The Aztec flying feathered serpent god Quetzelcotl returns. The Cherokee flying rattlesnake god returns. The Hindu Kali yuga conclusion of the age of Mao? demon. The Koine? Sybil’s prophecy points to 2012. Jonathan Edwards believed the days the true church would be oppressed in the end-times, it would be by the popes. Arrival of antichrist in 2012. The UN gets a new leader in 2012.
A Vatican faction supports Cardinal Bertoni, who may be Petrus Romanus. Cardinal Sedano heads another faction.
Quayle: America’s foreign policy is now to install the Islamist Jihad midset in the middle east. They have their Imam Mahdi who they expect will head the worldwide Caliphate. The fight will be between the Islamic expectation vs. the christian expectation. Like the Albert Pike and Jeseppi? Mezzini letters, the worlds of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism will destroy each other to pave the way for Lucifer.
Temple at the Center of Time, by David Flynn … is the temple in Jerusalem. The Catholic Church is wrangling for control of Jerusalem. This is Lucifer’s end-time play for control of the world. Vatican’s move to Jerusalem.
Putnam: Simon Perez promised Jerusalem to the Vatican. The Pope will be in charge there. Holy sites are being put under control of the Vatican now. “I think its leading to a third temple.”
Horn: We are seeing a waterfall of prophetical fulfillment now. Three issues pertaining to Petrus Romanus: takeover of Jerusalem, ufos, the coverup of the 3d secret of Fatima. David Flynn did the Watchers website. Cydonia: The Monuments of Mars was by David Flynn. He died in late 2011. In 2005 he connected Roswell, Mt Hermon and the year 2012.
The black Pope and Aliens. The Catholics will incorporate aliens into christian doctrine.
Horn: Who is most likely to take the throne of St. Peter? Will it be Peter the Roman? It may be Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone, who will act as head while the next pope is elected. The book, The Fourth Secret of Fatima, by Sulke, says that Rome is covering up the 3d. Google “Dear Cardinal Bertone, who between you and me is lying?” (Results: Scroll down in this and check the left-hand panel. This specifically is part 9, Petrus Romanus.) Ratzinger and Bertone released a version of “the 3d secret” in 2000. Sulke discovered that the situation of Rome at the time of Petrus Romanus was to be dire and so this was covered up. Cardinal Angelo Sodano is against Bertone becoming the next pope. He gave a speech in 2000, in which he described an an interpretation of the 3d secret (I don’t know whether his is a different version of the secret itself). The vision being interpreted describes a bishop clothed in white climbing through the refuse and corpses of a destroyed city, apparently Rome, where the religious leaders are all dead. He is trying to reach a cross and kneels before it when terrorists arrive and shoot him. Sodano interpreted this saying the bishop was only apparently dead and that the attempt on John Paul 2 in 1981 fulfilled this prophecy. Ratzinger changed his tune on the fatima prophecies in 2000 and joined Sodano saying the prophecies pertained to the 1981 assassination attempt and not the end-times. So where was the ruined city and all the dead?
So this is future and tied to the election of the last pope. A terrorist event will destroy the city and Benedict the xvi, Ratzinger, will be assassinated and an anti-pope will take his place. (Perhaps Ratzinger will die, and Sodano will be assassinated.) The new pope will promote the antichrist.
Quayle: Back channels are saying there are terrorist cells preparing to take down Rome, aka, the Vatican. The plans are already in place. The stargates are opening. When the Vatican shifted from teaching that aliens are demons to teaching that aliens …
Horn: The rabbit hole goes very deep. The Vatican has interdisciplinary works showing that mankind could soon be evangelized by contact with aliens. They say these intelligences will have a higher level of understanding of God because they are not fallen. “This would not immediately oblige the Christian to renounce his own faith in God simply on the basis of reception of new unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations, but such a renunciation could come soon after as the new religious content originating from outside the earth is confirmed as reasonable and credible once the trustworthiness of the information has been verified. The believer would have to reconcile such new information with the truth which he or she already knows on the basis of the revelation of the one triune God conducting a re-reading of the gospel inclusive of the new data.” So how will this be confirmed? (Heh.) Vatican observatory directors are concluding that Jesus might not be the only Word of God spoken to the universe. Aliens could have had a different gospel spoken to them. The Vatican is expecting e.t.s to have a significant role in bringing in a new gospel.
Putnam: What is the theological change in the Vatican? The Marian apparitions may allow an intersection with ufos and the Muslims venerate Mary. What could unite Judaism, Christianity, and Islam? An alien presence could do that. It will take something huge and external to effect this unity, (and strong delusion).
We have to bring people to awareness of the lateness of the hour.
Putnam: Renee Thibaut’s work is the most salient thing. He comes up with 2012 via several methods. But there are many other confirmations, such as, Jonathan Edwards, a section on Catholic theology, Marian apparitions, and the present battle over Jerusalem.
Horn: There are reasons why what’s happening in Rome right now; why Lucy spent the last years of her life entrapped under a code of silence. With Fatima there was an internal struggle. Ratzinger and others wanted to reveal the entire secret but other factions would not allow it. So it was agreed that Sodano would say it was fulfilled (as described above) while John Paul would refer to a different part, saying that a third part of the stars were being dragged from heaven to the earth. Catholic theologians would know that the church fathers taught that the stars referred to clergy. The pope was saying that a third part of the church-men at Rome were falling under the influence of the devil; that the Third secret also predicted this great apostacy. Catholic see-ers have predicted for hundreds of years that Rome would apostacize and give rise to the false prophet in the end-time who would give power to the antichrist. The warning of Laussalette (sp?) is one example.
Horn and Putnam are telling us that these prophecies have come to fruition – that we are at harvest time. The event time is now. The Vatican is being packed to elect Bertone the next pope, but there is another influence coming in. Horn used to think Bertone would be the next pope, but tehre is reason to believe a dark horse will take it.
Achbishop Lorenzo Baldeseri was appointed 1/11/2012 as secretary of the congregation for bishops by the pope. He was part of the orignal fatima coverup in 2000. Sodano ordained Baldeseri to the priesthood on the day of the ritual enthronement of Lucifer, June 29, 1963. All the players in that ritual are the principle players now in the soon-to-come election of the next pope.
The Siri thesis goes that in the 1963 election of Pope Paul VI, Cardinal Juseppe Siri got the marjority vote in 1958 and 1963 but declined the papal post under heavy Illuminized Masonic pressure. Later he said, “I am bound by the secret; the secret is horrible; I have books to write about the different conclaves. Very serious things have taken place. But I can say nothing.” Malachi Martin was in the 1963 conclave and says that in both 58 and 63 Siri was elected, but his election was set aside by interference from the Freemasons.
Antichrist must be here now, too. Who is he? Horn and Putnam drew back from this in their work. The struggle in the Vatican is related to some kind of mafia and to the U.S. power. To the illuninists, the U.S. is the phoenix. It is to give birth to the antichrist. The layout of D.C. refers to this and its on the currency. This is the coming of Apollo. Read “Apollyon Rising, 2012″, by Horn. Timothy Dolan was just elevated to Cardinal and so will be in the conclave. The antichrist could be the American president.
What about Clovenbach and the Jesuit covert orders? The black pope is the Jesuit’s general.
Putnam: M. Martin wrote in 1988 about the Jesuits where he said a state of war exists between the papacy and the Jesuits. he said there is a satanic group of Jesuits called the Roman Phalanx. It seems they are running the Vatican now.
Horn: The Masonic plot involved in 1958 and 1963 conclaves was alluded to in the movie Angels and Demons, based on Dan Brown’s book in which the Illuminati planned to destroy the Vatican. Brown relied heavily on the secret history of the 1958 and 1968 conclaves. Siri stepped aside because a nuclear bomb would have been used to destroy the Vatican and its officials. Many church fathers, Marian apparitions, catholic see-ers declared these events as a pre-game for the election of the final pope.
St. Francis of Assisi prophesied that “at the time of this tribulation a man not canonically elected would be raised to the pontificate, who by his cunning will endeavor to draw many into and error death. Some preachers will keep silent about the truth and others will trample it under foot and deny it. for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not true pastor, but a destroyer”. The Vatican this year enters the golden anniversary of Vatican II.
Quayle: Maitreya? Nah. Neither is Obama.
Horn: There is presently a conflict about who will become the antichrist. Fr. Cramer, in “The Book of Destiny”gave an inaccurate interpretation of Revelation in which the Woman clothed with the sun giving birth to a son who will rule the nations with a rod of iron, saying that this must be a papal election. The nations would resist this birth and election. Inaccurate but perhaps influencing the Vatican positioning that we see presently.
Hawk (comes on the show): What about the timing? April? Would an attack on Iran affect the timing?
Answer: Putnam decoded Thibaut’s work as indicating April, 2012 via numerous methods. Ratzinger may step down on his birthday, which is in April. Vatican insiders have said he will.
Hawk: I think this thing will happen very fast. As per “Apollyon Rising 2012″, by Horn, and David Flynn’s book “At one(?) Time” have basically given us the time and I’ve been looking for the antichrist to come along and he’s got to be on the scene right now ready to become the peacemaker. We are going to war in the middle east probably within the next two months.
Horn: There is very strong evidence that we are facing this year the appearance of the false prophet and the rise of the antichrist.
Hawk: Bertone is no one to play with. Guard your perimeter.
Putnam: We’ve been doing it, Hawk. Thanks.
Quayle: It’s hours, days, and weeks now; not months and years.
Hawk: Thurs night. survivetothrivenetwork on
??? Third Secret of Fatima ???
January 4, 1944 (January? The website said it was written either April or Sept 1, 1944)
Now i will reveal the third part of the secret;
This part is the apostasy in the Church!
Our Lady showed us a vision of some-one who i describe as the ‘ Pope ‘, standing in front of a praising multitude. But there was a difference with a real Pope, the evil look, this one had eyes of evil.
Then after a few moments we saw the same Pope entering a church, but this church was like the church of hell, there is no way to describe the ugliness of this place, it seemed like a fortress made of gray cement, with broken angles and windows like eyes, there was a beak on top of the building.
We then looked up at Our Lady who said to us you have seen the apostasy in the Church, this message can be opened by The Holy Father, but must be announced after Pius XII and before 1960.
During the pontificate of John Paul II the cornerstone from Peter’s tomb must be removed and transferred to Fatima. Because the Dogma of faith is not preserved in Rome, her authority will be removed and given to Portugal.
The cathedral of Rome must be destroyed and a new one built in
If 69 weeks after this command is announced Rome continues it’s abomi-
nation, the city will be destroyed.
Our Lady told us this is written, Daniel 9 24-25 and Mathew 21 42-44
TIA(Advocating the authenticity of the Third Secret)
TIA (Malachi Martin & the Third Secret)
TIA (The Victory of the Sappers)
TIA (Second Interview of Malachi Martin on the Third Secret)